The only name I'd heard for the Roman>soldier was Longinus. When, pointing to his face of glossy jet, Cain said, "You see the curse is on me yet.". I believe the Cain roaming the earth legend comes only from David Patten's second hand story as told by someone else and printed in a biography of David Patten and sited in "The Miracle of Forgiveness". I don't know whether this is an authentic version of the>legend or if it's just something Weinberg made up.). Further, God would spirit Jesus up to Heaven but leave his other big resurrection down on Earth to multiply and feed off the very flock that Jesus came to save. and you're invited to watch. bring kleenex!www.speedkingrecords.ca Most likely drawing on centuries of unwritten folklore, legendry, and oral tradition brought to the West as a product of the Crusades, a Latin chronicle from Bologna, Ignoti Monachi Cisterciensis S. Mariae de Ferraria Chronica et Ryccardi de Sancto Germano Chronica priora, contains the first written articulation of the Wandering Jew. The mans faith is shattered. "I did not believe the phrase 'bodies piled in heaps' until I saw the battlefield yesterday", -Captain Emory Upton after the Battle of Antietam, : I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? Shaken and alone, Nimue presses ahead on her quest, as flashbacks reveal a harrowing encounter years ago that changed the course of her life. Of course, this person also believes such things, so onecan never tell. The Bible says Satan was more crafty than any other beast of the field. Popular vampires as descended from Eastern Europe folklore have their history so entwined with Christian symbols, that its appetizing to hunt for biblical references. 1. under a curse; damned. ** ====================================================================== ** My E-mail -- har@lurch.winthrop.edu OR zzha@acad.winthrop.edu ** My wholly unremarkable Home Page -- http://lurch.winthrop.edu/~harrist ** My RL Address -- 112 South First Street -- Fort Mill, SC -- 29715-9391 ** Phone 1 (803) 547 7676 -- Best after 6pm EST -- Collect calls accepted ***************************************************************************, newsgroup "Since when has deaths toped any, is "Sence when has death stop any one in the, "667; neighbor of the beast." 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You would think that if the curse really were removed that the mark or token of it would at least be taken off Cain (who was white to begin with) if not taken off of his posterity (who had mingled with Africans, who were undoubtedly here before Adam and already black). but you get the point) so>yes, he gets >>mention in the booksjust not directly. Press J to jump to the feed. The origins of the legend are uncertain; perhaps one element is the story in Genesis of Cain, who is issued with a similar punishmentto wander over the earth, scavenging and never reaping, although without the related punishment of endlessness. Also, in the version of Patten's experience as it is related, it is assumed this was a real person, not a vision or spirit, thus strengthening the idea that Cain was still alive. The books focused on Casca Longinus the cursed Roman soldier and charted his journey through time doing the only thing he knew - be a soldier. Cursed is an American fantasy drama streaming television series that premiered on Netflix on July 17, 2020. Prevesti. The story that he was cursed to walk the earth till the second coming was a later addition. So we have good immortal beings we know as (translated personages), naturally logic would dictate that the polar opposite the anti-thesis must exist also. Your email address will not be published. It will be in stores this >week. Finding no reason to stay in Greece, he moves to Nordic lands. The point is, its far more likely that The Book of Alugah and early vampire literature independently decided to assign traits to the vampire that would make them a stand-in for All That Is Ungodly, than it is that Judas fathered a vampire race that still walks among us. David W. Patten said that the person identified himself as Cain (Btw, does anyone think Bro. ing his sojourn upon the earth, but that he could not die, and his mission was to destroy the souls of men. Perhaps his being cursed to be a "vagabond" in the earth (Genesis 4: 12 and Moses 5:37) led to a (mis? Actually, theDevil's Auction is a pretty good book -- not great, but pretty good. >> The other "cursed guy" was the Wandering Jew, who was cursed>> with eternal life until Jesus returned because the W.J. > On Wed, 29 May 1996 22:22:36 +0000 in alt.games.whitewolf, Marc17 (mcsc@uoknor.edu) wrote:> >There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non > >fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, > >which is supposedly in some German museum. I don't know what this book is called or if my friend> just made it up or not, but it seems like and interesting tale. The mans faith is shattered. The mark was a protection--so that others were warned not to seek vengeance against Cain for the death of Abel. How did he survive the Flood? What's interesting is that in the actual version he cites, Patten does not even mention that it is Cain he met--but in the comments before the story, Pres. An interesting legend; of course, what about the company of soldiers whoscourged him, beat the stuffing out of him, and put the crown of thorns onhis head? Woeeeeee! Well, yes, I can see that, except that in the case of these beings, they were given the gift of being translated so that they could "bring souls to Christ"--I don't see Heavenly Father granting this gift of living forever to allow someone to use it for evil..that just seems out of character and outside the designs of Heavenly Father's plan and purposes--to me it sounds like fokelore. Weinberg does interesting things with the paraphernalia of classicgrimoire occultism; I'd recommend the book to anyone who plans on playingan Order of Hermes Mage. And if there is>: >any mention of him in any of the whitewolfs books. And today, Christians continue to celebrate the vampire resurrection by pretending to drink the blood of their savior in communion. CATHARSIS 2. he tried toevoke the apocalypse because than his life would finally end. It was probably not long after his arrival in Tennessee, Whitaker Chambers wrote in Life Magazine an account of his, A group of teenaged boys were playing with a Ouija board. Thinking I might>: >run a campaign having to do with him, if I can find out more stuff>: >about him. But Im halfway through this package I got for my, um, glaucoma, so lets follow this thread. The Wandering Jew is a figure from Christian folklore, a Jewish man who, according to legend, taunted Jesus on the way to the Crucifixion and was then cursed to walk the earth until the Second Coming. OVERSOUL 9. This is a list of people claimed to be immortal. There was a series of paperbacks entitled "Casca" with the subtitle (IIRC)The Eternal Mercenary. It was not necessary for Cain to survive, only for one of his descendants to survive the flood. I think it's sometimes the little inconsistencies like this that may bring some to question the truthfulness of the gospel in general. BUT to buy into the tale found in the Book of Alugah, you must also buy into the idea that the Great Miracle , the cornerstone upon which Christianity rests, the resurrection of Jesus Christ was just a warm up for Gods resurrection of Judas. WAKE 5. It has alot of the different mythologies dealing with Longinus (which means Long lived in latin. His eyes were very protruding and rather wild looking, his fingernails were thick and long. 478. 2Co 5:7 NENT (for we walk through faith, not through sight) (Rom. My freind went on, > to say that this book was banned by the Catholic church as sacraligious, > and had always been considered fiction. >The Cross). Perhaps he got past the Cherubim with his flaming sword and stole some fruit from the tree of life. --Bruce R. McConkie in Priesthood, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1981, pp. "-Karen Kruzycka. Originally planned for 2003, the film took over two more years to be made than originally Cant remember where I heard about him but it was a while>: >ago, maybe I'll weave a lost clan around him. Cursed to walk this Earth by Barren On first blush, Ill concede that Cursed To Walk This Earths cohesion couldve been a stumbling block with just a cursory glance, it feels a little samey throughout, a twenty-minute wall of HM2 guitar fuzz and pounding drums, broken up only by the occasional downshift to slam-groove tempo (see: Catharsis or Pareidolia) or the moody arpeggios that start the track Wake. But with each return, greater depth starts to show through, and more subtle differences begin to poke out from the relentless grinding around them: the melodic coda of Rain or the raucous swagger of Oversoul. Still, grindcore isnt about subtlety its about aggression and Cursed To Walk This Earth has enough of that to get the blood pumping, no question. So, even though we live in a fallen world, we can walk in the blessing of Creators Frank Miller (based on the book by) Tom Wheeler (based on the book by) Stars Katherine Langford Devon Terrell Gustaf Skarsgrd See production, box office & company info Watch on Netflix S1 with subscription The exact nature of the wanderers indiscretion varies in different versions of the tale, as do aspects of his character; sometimes he is said to be a shoemaker or other tradesman, while sometimes he is the doorman at the estate of Pontius Pilate. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The ban of wandering, which David pronounced upon his enemies (Psalm 59:12; Psalm 109:10), in later years fell upon the Jews, who "for shedding the blood of Christ, the most innocent Lamb of God, are vagabonds to this day over the face of the earth" (Willet). -Tales from the Floating Vagabond, >>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? But it seems they made good use of lock-down, pushing out a demo and two EPs in 2021. Borrowing the HM2 buzzsaw fuzz predominantly associated with Swedish death metal, these Belgians describe their style as chainsaw grind. Given the death/grind carving There was a series of books, CASCA written by the late Barry Sadler (of Ballad of Green Berets fame). Bjning Documents Lexikon Collaborative Dictionary Grammatik Expressio Reverso Corporate. )interpretation of evil, strange-looking, powerful men as Cain. As the shoemaker sets to work, the travellerfalls asleep.Once he's finished nailing back the heel, he notices how neat andwell-done the shoes are, and, since the traveller's still asleep,he put them on, and finds the shoes fit him perfectly. As a side story, a friend of mine mentioned a story he had read but I forget the title of the book which I believe he said was written around the 16th century(?). Now you have been called to find her and solve the mysteries of the abandoned mines. Travis Parks, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, > His name was Longinus, and he was just cursed to stick around until Christ, > The Cross). cursed ( ksd; kst) or curst adj 1. under a curse 2. deserving to be cursed; detestable; hateful cursedly adv cursedness n Collins English Dictionary Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014 cursed (kr sd, krst) adj. > Once in Rome they veiwed the >treachery and vices which were present at the time including murders, >orgies, little boys, etc. Toothpickings is a blog that you can read. *This article uses material from the Wikipedia article Wandering Jew, which is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0 (view authors). Every Friday I join a community of bloggers for Five Minute Friday. This, couldn't have been anybody but Cain. but you get the point) so yes, he gets, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group. Immediately when the light appeared the person stopped and on being commanded to leave, he backed out the door. Blue, Yellow, & Bleeding: - . VOIDWALKER 4. Moses 5:36 And now thou shalt be cursed from the earth which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand 37 When thou tillest the ground it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength. A fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. Dont let the sun set on a post! Interestingly I had just recently read an account in my own missionary journal of an experience with Cain that was told to me by another missionary in my mission, so I thought I'd post that too just for fun (I won't say which mission I went to or what the Elder's name was) : --Journal of [kamenraider] 1989-1990, May 6, 1990 "Supernatural Experiences", pgs. And if that's all the evidence there is, I'd say we definitely should not be repeating this bit of information as fact in Sunday School, seminary classes etc. >Kestrel the Fairly Decent Dragon wrote:>>> The Wandering Jew is Methuselah?>>No, the wandering jew was called Ahasverus. In July 2021, the series was canceled after one season. . Since it hasn't happened yet the writers createdcharicters that saw Jesus but where not yet dead. In his Leimonarion, Moschos recounts meeting a monk named Isidor who had purportedly met a Malchus-type of a figure who struck Christ and is therefore punished to wander in eternal suffering and lament: I saw an Ethiopian, clad in rags, who said to me, You and I are condemned to the same punishment. I said to him, Who are you? And the Ethiopian who had appeared to me replied, I am he who struck on the cheek the creator of the universe, our Lord Jesus Christ, at the time of the Passion. er. And why not? Whoever eats it shall be cut off. -Leviticus 17:1014. Enter a Crossword Clue Sort by Length # of Letters or Pattern Here is an account, though, given in 1983 by a seminary student as related by his teacher (after the curse was supposed to have been "removed" in 1978 and have been "no more") : --Folk Collection 8a, Group 7: Box 3, 2.4.1.5.20.1, Fife Folklore Archives, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan UT. To me, the Cain stories are examples of something I consider LDS "folklore"--outside the canon but still quite persistent in being passed down and believed. Is she even still alive at this point? In other words, God reserved blood for Himself, not for you lowly non-omnipotent plebes who cant even separate the Heavens from the Earth. [2] When Cain spilled his brother's blood, the earth became cursed as soon as the blood hit the The tale is from the Decameron of Boccacio, and is a stone hoot. Cant remember where I heard about him but it was a while>> ago, maybe I'll weave a lost clan around him. I don't know whether this is an authentic version of>the>>>legend or if it's just something Weinberg made up. It has been alleged by an 1881 writer, who however cites no instances, that the supposed presence of the Wandering Jew has occasionally been used as a pretext for incursions by Gentiles into Jewish quarters during the late Middle Ages when the legend was accepted as fact. Director Wes Craven Writer Kevin Williamson Daily spiritual self-care habits we all can benefit from | Thriive.in, Some Spiritual Truths We Need Reminding About. > I meant to say this in my last posting> > but forgot; who wrote "Spear of Destiny," when was it> > published, etc.I would like to find myself a copy> > and need this information. 8:13 for if ye live after the flesh, ye must die; but if by the Spirit ye put to death the deeds of the body, ye shall live.) One boy asked, "Can we see Cain?" > Actually, the>Devil's Auction is a pretty good book -- not great, but pretty good. List of people claimed to be immortal in myth and legend, While Mount Olympus actually exists, the Greeks understood a distinction between the Olympus of the Gods and the part that could be seen by humans. Hrvatski. The Ouija board answered yes. And reigns as king o'er all the murd'rous host. The reacurring idea of ancient nefarious beings in fiction like vampires who are immortal for example. I'm talking about the notion that Cain lived forever and it still walking the earth. Can anyone show me any references (other than David Patten's story) to support this belief, that Cain is still roaming the earth, in some sort of cursed translated state? When thou tillest (literally, shalt till) the ground, it shall not henceforth yield (literally, add to give) unto thee her strength. (The Wandering Jew isalso a central character in Robert Weinberg's novel, The Devil's Auction,but in this case he turns out to beJudas Iscariot. Matthew Paris included this passage from Roger of Wendover in his history; and other Armenians appeared in 1252 at the Abbey of St Albans, repeating the same story, which was regarded there as a great proof of the truth of the Christian religion. And if that's all the evidence there is, I'd say we definitely should not be repeating this bit of information as fact in Sunday School, seminary classes etc. As if a little thing like that would stop a curse from God? Aed writes that God in his fury condemned Judas to walk the earth until the final days. Now that's *really* strange, given that Ahasuerus is a variant form ofArtaxerxes (see the book of Esther), a *Persian* name (guess hewandered pretty far, eh? "Everything is true. Since I dont have the dough to purchase this book and my Aramaic is rusty, Ill have to rely on the summaries provided by others. One of them had the idea to take the board to the graveyard. After awhile they started asking deeper questions. The Wandering Jew, often named Ahasueras>(or variations thereof) was cursed for mocking Jesus on the road to>Golgotha, or at least that's the version I read. While it's not important for our salvation, I do think it is important to look carefully at the things we teach and promote within the church. > The other "cursed guy" was the Wandering Jew, who was cursed> with eternal life until Jesus returned because the W.J. edited to add: I noticed one of the anecdotes is provided by Rulon Allred. He tried to tell this wandering jew of the wonders of >Christianity and get him to convert bu the jew refused and responed by >saying that Jesus was a jew and he knew what he was doing and telling >the man he should convert to judiasm. Genesis 3:17-19 (NKJV) Most people read this passage and say that God cursed the earth. We blame God for the fallen state of the earth and everything in it. But pay close attention when you read, because it actually says, cursed is the ground FOR YOUR SAKE. The New Living Translation phrases it, the ground is cursed because of you. JC told WJ to "tarry til I comeagain.". but you get the point) so>yes,>>he gets >>>mention in the booksjust not directly>>>-- >>>>The Wandering Jew is Methuselah?>>I share your puzzlement, Kestrel. My freind went on to say that this book was banned by the Catholic church as sacraligious and had always been considered fiction. It is based on the illustrated novel of the same name by Frank Miller and Tom Wheeler. He was making his. In the instant Judas kissed Jesus, Judas both became a vampire, and imparted his vampire nature to Jesus. In denying him a home. He went on to tell the circumstances. Still think church is for nerds? A man decided to take a pilgramage to Rome. I don't recall seeing him anywhere, which is pretty consistantwith WW policy. Cursed to walk this Earth by Barren, released 02 February 2022 1. home with Levi Taylor, the step-father of Abraham 0. John 21:20-23. :) Such is the fate of urban legends, after all. Jesus saith to him, If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to thee? but you get the point) so yes, >: he gets mention in the booksjust not directly>. >>Just wondering if anyone knew about the soldier who struct christ and>>was cursed to wonder the earth untill the end of time. Because the one thing we know about vampires, is that they must die and rise as the undead. I had heard the legends that Cain was bigfoot, and for those who believe Cain is roaming around the earth, I suppose it's not an unreasonable theory. Finding Cassius Longus or any otherbiblical charicter in person would provide to positive an answer. After being cursed, Cain was cut off from the presence of God, something he'd clearly enjoyed before he murdered his brother. (how he survived the flood I do not know, perhaps Noah's raven flew over to Cain's little barge, after it did not return to the Arc, after all they are black & a very old occult omen of evil/misfortune & they rank the highest on the avarian I.Q. Cursed 2005 PG-13 1 h 37 m IMDb RATING 5.0 /10 34K YOUR RATING Rate Play trailer 1:39 2 Videos 52 Photos Comedy Horror A werewolf loose in Los Angeles changes the lives of three young adults who, after being mauled by the beast, learn they must kill it in order to avoid becoming werewolves themselves. There was After that, Guido Bonatti writes people saw the Wandering Jew in Forl (Italy), in the 13th century; other people saw him in Vienna and elsewhere. Read The Unbeholden, by Robert Weinberg. arrived the[y] went in the bedroom and the companion was lying on his bed curled up in a fetal position sobbing and he was all bruised and bloodied and he said that he had challenged Satan to a fight and some guy appeared and said he was Cain and beat the tar outta the guy. Err, I don't think so. They imply and suggest but never state anythingabout Jesus or his life. My guess is that it's such supporting accounts that President kimball also had access to when he stated the same thing. I think his full name is Casius Longinus). Any answers would be>> greatly appreaciated. During this time with the power of Hope now given to humanity, the people of Greece have learned to move on and rebuild without the need of the Olympian Gods. They were referred to as the Jotun, although they were not thought to be quite as large as others of Norse lore, such as the hrimpusar (frost giant) and the bergrisar (mountain giant). I agree, I see the folklore on Vampires as similar. The Book of Alugah is the Aramaic version of Snitches Get Stitches. So I guess that wraps up this blog series. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts 1. But this seems to be inferred, because in reading the account in Miracle of Forgiveness, it does not say that Cain is still alive, it just reports Patten's claim that he met a miserable looking man on the road who told him that he roamed the earth trying to destroy others--and apparently Patten or others who repeated the story later believed it was Cain. His name was Longinus, and he was just cursed to stick around until Christ came back because he stuck Jesus with the Spear of Destiny while he was on The Cross). 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